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Marech Bhayanaka
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Posted - 2015.10.16 01:02:55 -
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Querns wrote: People posting about this (both here and from without) are quick to call this "ISK for SP;" did you all deliberately ignore the part where you have to liquidate an existing pilot's skill points to fuel the skill packets?
Use your isk to keep an extra character or three training. Periodically strip their SP and give it to the characters you actually play. Voila, isk for SP. Or $ for SP if you prefer.
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Marech Bhayanaka
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Posted - 2015.10.16 01:30:58 -
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virm pasuul wrote:My gut reaction is negative, but in my attempt to express logical reasons I can only come up with two things I like about it:
1 It is an skill point sink, it will remove skill points from the game. The best conversion rate is 1:1 where no skill points are lost. In all other cases more skill points are consumed than released and so skill points are removed. I like the concept of this. As skill points are removed, the existing skill points will have slightly more value, in theory anyway.
Factor in the people who would keep a few extra characters training as a SP factory for their real characters and you may see a net INCREASE in SP growth, devaluing existing SP. Certainly the average time taken to get the first 30 or 40m SP trains will decrease when wealthy players can start a new character and do the first couple years of training in a few minutes.
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Marech Bhayanaka
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Posted - 2015.10.16 01:52:01 -
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The only thing that makes the loooooong wait for skills to train bearable, is the knowledge that every other character was made exactly the same way. Make it possible to buy SP and suddenly everyone who cannot afford them will feel like a second class citizen, watching new characters fly past them in abilities.
Even if the number of people actually doing it is small, the perception will be large. Don't underestimate how this will destroy the feeling of accomplishment people have when they get each new level 5, or how the wait for their next one will seem intolerable when they know others are paying to bypass it.
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Marech Bhayanaka
Misfits United I N G L O R I O U S
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Posted - 2015.10.16 02:05:10 -
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Indy Rider wrote:Delegate wrote:Marech Bhayanaka wrote:[quote=Querns] Periodically strip their SP and give it to the characters you actually play. Voila, isk for SP. Or $ for SP if you prefer.
Marech. This point deserve attention. Granted I haven't read the post in great detail, but wouldn't the whole diminishing returns thing make it a dumb idea to continually strip and transfer SP?
It gets more expensive, but in a game with the tremendous wealth disparity of Eve, either the space rich could easily afford this on high SP characters or no ordinary player could afford it even on low SP characters. You can't make it affordable for the masses and too expensive for the rich at high levels without making this diminishing returns orders of magnitude more potent.
Remember that the Eve elite have thousands of times more money than most of us, or any here would not be so many supercaps in the game.
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Marech Bhayanaka
Misfits United I N G L O R I O U S
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Posted - 2015.10.16 04:59:07 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:Marech Bhayanaka wrote:The only thing that makes the loooooong wait for skills to train bearable, is the knowledge that every other character was made exactly the same way. Make it possible to buy SP and suddenly everyone who cannot afford them will feel like a second class citizen, watching new characters fly past them in abilities.
Even if the number of people actually doing it is small, the perception will be large. Don't underestimate how this will destroy the feeling of accomplishment people have when they get each new level 5, or how the wait for their next one will seem intolerable when they know others are paying to bypass it.
Marech. Passage of time happens without any human intervention at all. The "sense of accomplishment" for simply letting time exist and take place makes no sense since it would have happened with or without you. Using "time" as the basis for accessibility is ********. That would be like saying whoever the oldest person alive is the one who gets to rule the world because since he's simply existed longest, he's entitled to the best of the best benefits. lol @ the idea of "hooray I did nothing except wait and I'm rewarded!!!!" haha that's so insane.
This feeling is common. Labelling it insane doesn't make it go away. CCP is playing with fire here.
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